back in february of this year, ken salazar called this plan a, quote, science-based approach that restores the health of our lands and wildlife and supports jobs and revenue for local communities. although there has been some press saying this is going to dough stroy jobs for people -- destroy jobs for people, that might thought necessarily be entirely accurate. they will allow logging. they are not going to be getting rid of people. >> i had an opinion before you brought this to my attention because you did some reading. i will choose to ignore what you said because it will hurt what i had to say. bill isn't one human job more available than one owl life? >> i don't know about that. according to what remi said we will be creating jobs here too. >> she is lying jie. you -- >> you are lying. >> i am quoting ken salazar. >> she a american with the name salazar. >> he isn't even from here. >> he is part of big owl, by the way. he is paid by the owls. you know what the problem with owls is, they are perceived to be smart. they haven't invented a single thing. they sit in a tree and stair at yo